Drew Emmer has said some pretty stupid things on the DME blog this last week (don't bother spending too much time over there unless you like verbal abuse). Despite the fact that he knows the system well and saw our conventions, he is wrong in the many false statements he makes. I am surprised and disappointed at how many times Drew Emmer has been twisting the truth throughout this process. He has spoken as an “authority” on the SD16 Endorsing Convention because he was there. Well, I was there too, and Drew Emmer is an idiot for getting so much wrong. I’ve watched this thing from the kick-off. Drew, I am very disappointed in some of the things you said. The blog posts are posted below, interrupted by my responses.
Drew Emmer Says:
August 13th, 2008 at 8:40 am: The characterization that the Minnesota GOP endorsed Mark Olson is indeed what the left will gravitate toward. In reality SD16 endorsed Olson. More specifically, the folks in SD16 who bothered to show up for the special endorsing convention. Mark & Heidi deserve credit for winning at the endorsing game. A game they know well and executed deftly last Thursday. They rallied support from within their network of friends in and out of the district and they won.
The GOP did endorse Mark Olson. You may not know this, but only SD16 can endorse a candidate for the GOP… oh wait a second, you knew that! You know how this works. Don’t try to confuse folks on what happens. You bet SD16 folks were the ones who endorsed- they are the only ones who can. Mark Olson IS the GOP endorsed candidate, period.
A “game?” Are you seriously characterizing our conventions as mere games?! You have run them before, you know how they work. Everyone who participated in this sought to facilitate the delegates deliberations and decisions. We here believe that these conventions are very important and should not be toyed with. Perhaps you are one who plays games at our conventions. Was it not you, a citizen from an outside district, who was illegally attempting to speak on issues, make points of order, and interfere in our convention? You came in and spoke at our convention in violation of the convention rules to try to play games to help your candidate win. You charaded as a delegate, trying to create a favorable climate for your candidate. You were not a delegate to the convention, you knew that, yet you interfered. You knew that was wrong but you did it anyway.
Mark Olson’s “friends” were not to blame for your loss. He had the support of more than just friends. In fact, many of his closest friends were absent on account of the convenient short notice of the convention. Mark Olson didn’t push and prod people to stand with him. People did that all on their own. Mark Olson didn’t even need to finagle to get the support he needed, a thing reflected in what was a landslide victory.
Alison signed a pledge to not actively campaign against the endorsement. So did Mark. That’s a pretty significant commitment and definitely shows respect for the will of the delegates. I do not expect Alison to waffle on that pledge. Her integrity is far more precious to her than a senate seat. In the unlikely event that she passively wins the primary, since her name is indeed still on the ballot, well, then she has a whole new situation to deal with.
Alison has already violated the pledge when she encouraged folks who didn’t like the outcome of the endorsement convention to vote for her! The pledge was to abide by the endorsement, not this “not actively campaign” trash you and her are throwing around to cover your butts. The pledge reads:
“I _____, as a candidate seeking endorsement from the Republican Party of Senate District 16 to run as an endorsed Republican candidate for the SD16 seat in the fall of 2008, hereby agree to abide by the decision of the Republican Party Senate District 16 2008 Endorsing Convention. I will not run against the Republican endorsed candidate for the SD16 seat should the aforementioned convention decide not to endorse me.”
This pledge was signed under no duress and read in front of the entire convention. Alison Krueger has mischaracterized the pledge signed at the convention as stating that she “would not openly campaign,” adding that “If people in the district don’t like what happened, that can still change at the primary.” (Taken from St Cloud Times, August 9th) It appears she is actively working to win the primary outside of the public eye to avoid violation of the pledge, and I wonder very much how much you are trying to help her do just that. We in SD16 expected an act of sportsmanship, a public endorsement by Krueger of the endorsed candidate. The pledge was clear. Abide by the endorsement. If she is such a great Republican “activist” who is an asset to the party, why has she not publicly rejected the ridiculous endorsements of both the State Senate Caucus and Norm Coleman? If she is “respecting” the will of the delegates, why doesn’t she do this? The fact is she doesn’t respect the will of the delegates. If she was, she would have made a public statement backing the endorsed candidate.
We here in SD16 know quite well that there is a machine working underground to get her elected. Her actions speak as loud as her words. She promised to abide by the endorsement, and she better do all she can to discourage people from voting for her so her integrity is not flushed down the toilet, if it hasn’t been already.
Mark Olson unfortunately did not qualify for public subsidy. In the rush to assemble delegates for the endorsing convention, he failed to raise the minimum required to activate the share of public money. That’s $15-20K he will not have in his coffers to wage battle against Democrat Lisa Fobbe.
My understanding is that Mark didn’t want to take money from the state to run as a matter of principle. Are you sure it is because he missed the deadline? How do you know? Is that what Mark Olson told you? He didn’t, because Mark Olson never had any intent to file for the public money.
My personal regret about the endorsing convention is not so much the outcome as the way it was conducted. Senator Betsy Wergin served SD16 honorably.
She was not allowed to address the convention. She was not even allowed to be seated as a delegate even though she was a delegate! Her family and friends were not allowed to attend as guests. That’s just bush-league. Betsy deserves an apology and local leaders need to raise the bar of behavior in their ranks.
You liar! You were there, I was there, and I have the records proving she was never a delegate to ANY of the HD16B or SD16 Conventions!! She would have had to have been elected at caucuses in the fall, yet the PCR reports show she was not. The sign-in sheets for the HD16B convention showed she was NOT a delegate or alternate. She should not be allowed to vote, she should not be allowed to speak on issues, she should not be allowed to interfere in the convention as you suggest. You know nothing! The fact that you got this dead wrong shows how willing you are to twist the truth and play “games” while everyone else is simply trying to facilitate the will of the people in an honest grassroots process.
Betsy Wergin nearly screwed the entire district when she waited until the last possible second to announce she was taking the PUC Commissioner spot for her BROTHER. She never told ANY local GOP leadership that her seat would be vacant soon and a special election would be needed. She never told BPOU Executive Committee officers that they needed to start looking for candidates, which is one of the biggest responsibilities they have in their job capacity. We in SD16 were given no time to prepare for her sweet pay raise and bon voyage from SD16.
Betsy Wergin tried to illegally seat non-delegates to vote at the SD16 convention. Bryan Lawrence of the Baldwin Town Board, attempted to seat himself as a delegate. When a BPOU officer asked what he was doing, he said that Betsy Wergin had called him to come to the convention, saying “I was told I was a delegate.” Betsy Wergin evidently attempted to seat Bryan Lawrence as a delegate illegally. The PCR reports show that Lawrence was never at an SD16 caucus, meaning it is impossible that he was a delegate or alternate. Betsy Wergin would have known this. His name appears on no delegate list- I am 100% certain, as I have the records in my hands right now! Thankfully, he was not seated thanks to vigilant eyes.
Betsy Wergin’s husband, Richard, also attempted to obtain an Official Voting Card and vote as a delegate before a BPOU officer stopped him. Betsy Wergin did nothing to help us in this process and has done much to make it more difficult. I suspect she was playing “games” just like you. SD16 leadership should not apologize to Wergin, but reprimand her for her actions at the convention and for her total disregard of the BPOU leadership in the run-up to the special convention. She should have told the BPOU Chairs at the very least of the pending appointment and special election. Her not doing so made it a hellish experience for those rushing to get the convention together in only 3 weeks. It prevented the BPOUs from doing their jobs and nearly prevented them from serving the will of the delegates.
Drew, you should apologize to the Senate District for you interference at our convention and the twisted facts you continue to spew. You are dead wrong here! Do not play a violin for Wergin.
August 13th, 2008 at 11:37 am: Senator Wergin was not seated as a delegate. It is my understanding that she was elected a delegate at her precinct caucus. And she has been seated as a delegate at all other conventions. I’ve never heard of a delegate showing up and not being seated. I do not know why she was not seated. Perhaps someone running the show will clarify that.
Wergin should not have been a delegate for the HD16B Convention, the HD16B Endorsing Convention, or the SD16 Endorsing Convention. If she was ever seated as such and voted, that was illegal. Records for the conventions and caucuses show she was never a delegate or alternate. She was not elected a delegate or alternate at any precinct caucus.
You say you have “never heard of a delegate showing up and not being seated?” Well, Mark Olson did just that. At both the HD16B and SD16 Endorsing Conventions, Olson refused to be seated even though he was, in fact, an elected delegate. PRC forms from the caucuses and convention records verify this. Mark Olson refused to be seated out of respect of the delegates. At both conventions, he simply wanted to present himself as an option to let people decide for themselves. I haven’t heard of this happening before either, Drew, and it is just one more example of Mark Olson’s character and integrity.
There was a motion to change the rules to preclude anyone not a delegate/alternate or resident of the district or candidate family member from delivering an endorsement speech. The gal that read the motion said they wanted to “prevent party elites and politicians from unduly influencing the outcome”. It was so cool to almost be banned from this convention as I am none of the above. Unfortunately the motion failed after Mark Swanson spoke up and straightened the joint out. Would have been an honor to be banned but it just wasn’t my day I guess.
The motion was not directed at just you, but glad you got the hint. That motion should have sent a signal to everyone that we do not like outside meddling. Too bad the State Senate Caucus and Norm Coleman didn’t heed that before they stuck their noses into it. Senjem was there to see that happen I believe; he should have known better.
The rationale behind barring Betsy Wergin’s family and friends from attending as guests so as to see/hear her farewell address is a mystery to me. They were turned away at the door. Every “VIP” in the room was allowed to speak except Betsy.
Not “every VIP” was allowed to speak. Ron Carey rushed up and took control himself without asking the Chair for permission to speak. Interesting how Carey took the time to talk about uniting the party behind its endorsed candidates, “We need to support our endorsed candidates.” How ironic.
Betsy’s family was attempting to interfere in the convention as previously mentioned. Also, there was no time for a farewell address by Betsy Wergin since she did not give us time to prepare for the convention. As a result, the state party stepped-in without local consult and chose the place, time, and registration fees. They sent the info out in the convention call (with incorrect address information) before we in SD16 had a chance to say anything. The MN GOP reserved the Princeton High School for too short a period. It was their brilliant scheduling that forced us to ensure the convention moved along. If Betsy wanted time to speak, she should have told us what was going on way before she did- she shouldn’t have just dropped it on our laps so last minute and take off running. Getting a call in the middle of the night hours away from office filing deadlines to find out you need to find candidates to fill a senate seat is not the way to treat your BPOU leadership. I guess she didn’t care since she doesn’t have to deal with SD16 in her new plush position. Also, I do not believe it is customary for candidates to give a farewell speech at an endorsing convention. Note also that Betsy Wergin was not running for another office, thus she had no reason to speak. I don’t believe she ever asked to speak in the first place.
The first ballot took about 1/2 hour to count. The second ballot was counted within 10 minutes as we were up against a mandatory 9:30pm adjournment. In fact, there was a motion to adjourn before the vote tally was rushed to the podium. But the chair decided not to recognize the motion to adjourn even though he reiterated it over the sound system. And the vote totals weren’t close to the total from the first ballot. I guess there may have been folks who left. But it didn’t look like anyone left.
The chair did the right thing and recognized the motion to adjourn. However, officers of the convention with delegated responsibilities needed to give reports to the Chair on where the ballot count was out. It was my responsibility at the convention to report to the Chair where we were at with time. I needed to deliver a time estimate on vote counting right as the motion to adjourn was introduced. His recognizing me to give this information does not violate Robert’s Rules of Order as it was a delegated function of the Chair in compliance with the convention rules. The motion to adjourn does trump all other motions, but if you are referring to my timer report, you are wrong as it was not a motion, point of order, etc. The motion to adjourn was a sneaky attempt to end the convention without an endorsed candidate- perfectly legal, but sneaky.
The reason it didn’t look like anyone left is that a heap of people changed their vote after hearing no substance from Krueger in the Q & A. Olson handled the Q&A much better. I personally talked to two persons who gladly switched their vote after the Q&A time. If anyone left, it was likely Krueger folks who realized they had made a mistake.
But the way they treated Betsy was awful.
Betsy treated us awfully despite the constant and unwavering support from the BPOUs in her district, even after a few of her votes that angered conservatives. How does Betsy reward this hard work for which there is no pay (unlike her old and new job)? She makes it as difficult as possible for the folks in SD16 to find candidates and endorse them. Mark Olson is the best we have, and it’s a solid choice to endorse him.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:07 pm: If a person has a right to stand against someone’s endorsement for voting to override the Governor’s veto, don’t they have a right to oppose an endorsement for whatever reason they want?
You are suggesting that the Senate Caucus Republicans, senators who have nothing to do with SD16, should be able to work against their own party’s endorsement? Party officers, from the BPOU level on up, are constitutionally required to support the endorsed candidates. Shouldn’t these “Republican” senators be held to the same standard? Shouldn’t they respect their jurisdiction and respect the decision of SD16? Even if the Senate Caucus has this right, why do they not use it to oppose the Override Six who backstabbed Republicans across the state? Why is it that the Senate Caucus will only take this extreme and unreasonable measure against a diehard conservative? And don’t tell me it’s an ethical issue- everyone with the facts should know that is not what this is about. Many Republican senators serving there now should have had their integrity questioned much, much more than Mark Olson’s.
SD16 chose Mark Olson without regard for his recent legal history. That was their choice.
No, they chose Mark Olson with the greatest regard for Mark Olson’s legal history. It’s just that everyone knew that he was an innocent man. Mark Olson’s legal history was in the forefront of the convention, there is no way a soul voted without regard to that history. People support Mark Olson because he is an innocent man with extraordinary integrity. People inside the district here have tremendous respect fro his integrity. Frankly, I think his integrity was proven to folks in SD16 as he never tried to hide anything during his case. He was open and honest, and still is.
You are right (wow). It was SD16’s choice to endorse whoever they want. That’s our right.
Frankly, I’m surprised at the number of people calling for an outright mutiny over this issue.
I’m not. You know that the Senate Caucus doesn’t like the idea of a conservative Republican coming to their chamber. They are desperate to keep him out for their own motives. Their actions are an affront to everyone in SD16, delegates, alternates, BPOUs, and Republican voters across the State of Minnesota. We in SD16 are fighting to keep elites out of our business. We know how to run things fine ourselves. This is a battle over the principle of elites and the establishment crushing the voice of the party grassroots. This is a hugely important battle.
I used to have a lot more respect for you then I do now. The only reason I have taken this long to respond is so I could verify everything with the PCR forms etc. Please be careful to never get this far off the facts again- you are a very capable convention chair, not the most common of things. I'll be watching what you say much closer for now on.